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Post by scabbydug on Nov 11, 2012 23:24:45 GMT
As the subject heading says - Let's hear your thoughts, musings and review of Madness' latest album.
Mr G. Yates and Mr Dankdonk were always good at this.
Sunnyside,
The Dug
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Post by graham on Nov 11, 2012 23:28:04 GMT
Oh go on then Dugster.....if I must  Actually being as this was quoted in this evening's MIS I suppose I should stick with the review I posted at Amazon (which was actually a slight re-work of the response I left on the NME review) - and went something like this: It's been described elsewhere as a "clod hopping ska-by-numbers" piece of work, but for what it's worth "Oui Oui Si Si Ja Ja The Da" is anything but that, in fact I'd go as far as to say that, odd sprinkling aside, there is not a great deal of ska to be found on the whole album - instead you have the trademark Madness sound that takes in their usual mix of pathos, social commentary and observation and sees some new influences bought in for good measure. "Never Knew Your Name" for instance has a distinctly disco feel which works well, the sublime "How Can I Tell You" is both catchy and crafted with a beautiful lyric whose "message from a parent to a child" theme resonates firmly with this particular Dad. "Misery" is a typical Madness stomper in the music hall style. "La Luna" with it's mariachi opening is wonderous. "Leon" and "Circus Freaks" are typical Madness pathos set against a well crafted tune. The only slight disappointment is the choice to open and start the album with latest single "My Girl 2" (which draws on both Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" and Fine Young Cannibal's "Good Thing" for it's Motown/Northern Soul infused influence) - would personally have preferred to see one of those spaces reserved for previous live favourite "Big Time Sister", but that's personal choice and nothing more. All in all, not as good as it's predecessor, the wonderous "The Liberty Of Norton Folgate", but definitely a collection of very good songs that shows that old dogs CAN learn new tricks! 7.5/10 |
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Post by MrDankDonk on Nov 11, 2012 23:35:11 GMT
Johnny
having seen so much awful pish written about this one online - both positive and negative - I was JUST thinking, just now, literally minutes ago, that i might as well stick my awfully pishy OUI OU opinion out there as well.
But not tonight, eh? maybe tomorrow when I'm being paid to type baws into a computer....
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Post by patrick on Nov 12, 2012 17:42:01 GMT
Had some doubts about this album probably though because norton folgate was so good .It's not as good maybe as folgate but i fine album nevertheless and the songs have definately grown on me the more that i have heard them.
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Post by tone1976 on Nov 15, 2012 12:44:09 GMT
Oui Oui is a good album I dont think its as good as norton folgate but its definitely better than mad not mad and wonderful and up there with One Step Beyond, Absolutely, Rise & Fall and Norton Folgate.
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Post by bedandbrekman on Nov 15, 2012 12:49:28 GMT
Oui Oui like Norton for me is a well produced album with some good tunes, but nothing that will really set the place buzzing at any gig. IMHO, Misery and How can I tell you are great, the rest are all OK without being outstanding. For me, I'd rather put Wonderful in the CD anyday than the other two, but of course it's all about opinions.
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Post by scabbydug on Nov 15, 2012 18:30:04 GMT
Now pay attention Madness fans....... I've a theory (whether you agree or not is not my concern) that most studio albums come in at half way, or just over, in my patented '50% Test'. If a studio album is at least half way good, then it's been a worthwhile purchase (and also achievement for whatever artist it may be). Some may ask how can it be classified as 'good' if it's only half of the album? If you imagine that the 50% you did like were singles and the remaining tracks were B-Sides (in old money!) then you've done rather well in your expectations and purchase. If it's below the 50% threshold, then you can have a gripe, but 50% and above, then you've done well! This theory of mine can get even more technical if you wish i.e. breaking down the cost per track if bought as a single and it's subsequent B-Side in relation to album cost.......but that starts to take the fun out of the whole thing  Oui, Oui, Si, Si, Ja, Ja, Da, Da, (as an eleven track album, not including *bonus* tracks) registers a very respectable 88.9% in my wee test  Try it with any album you own and you'll quickly discover that most albums by your favourite bands come in at 50% or just above!!! Sunnyside, The Dug |
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Post by graham on Nov 15, 2012 19:49:08 GMT
Nice theory Dugster my friend.....will have to give it a whirl.... ....it does actually raise a valid point though.....so called "bonus tracks".....how can they be a bonus when they appear on every format of the product that's available (actually not sure in this instance they're on the vinyl but if you can afford the vinyl you can afford extra for the bonus tracks!!)....but seriously this seems to happen a lot with CDs these days, tracks are listed as bonus tracks, but there's no limited edition, no format where the tracks don't appear.....so what's "bonus" about them? Or are we supposed to be grateful that the artist in question was only going to release 11 tracks and then thought to themselves "I'll give the fans a little extra, and add in three more tracks, they'll think they've got a wee bonus" |
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Post by sarah on Nov 15, 2012 20:08:03 GMT
I've got the album on vinyl, was surpised that the bonus tracks were on there, I thought they would just be on the cd.
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Post by graham on Nov 15, 2012 21:41:24 GMT
So curiouser and curiouser......the bonus tracks are on all formats.....hmmm...where's the bonus? |
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Post by scabbydug on Nov 15, 2012 22:38:34 GMT
... they've got a wee bonus" Ha, ha Graham.......we've started to covert you. You sound like Dankdonk and I now........except folk will be able to understand you better! ;D Sunnyside, The Dug |
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Post by graham on Nov 15, 2012 23:03:28 GMT
That's nothing....I work mainly with Americans an caught myself in a meeting the other week saying "we need to get from A to Zee" (instead of Zed!!)
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Post by scabbydug on Nov 15, 2012 23:46:21 GMT
The rot sets in quickly Graham  Next you'll be filling up with gas, walking the sidewalk, going to the movies and like totally wearing 48 inch pants!!!  Sunnyside, The Dug |
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Post by graham on Nov 16, 2012 9:18:38 GMT
and like totally wearing 48 inch pants!!! You suggesting I'll have to diet?!! (thought I'd get that in before anyone else does!!) |
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Post by gumption on Nov 16, 2012 11:42:24 GMT
MMM - looks like the album could completely crash out of the top 75 within 3 weeks
I have to say there are some really weak tracks - Kitchen Floor? Not worthy of a b side. Black and Blue? Plain average. Death of a Rude Boy is from another age - it is out of place on this album.
Why were far superior songs - 1978 and Big Time Sister for instance -culled? I really do wonder at the thinking sometimes.
The album is just about saved by three classics - Leon, Small World and Powder Blue. Circus Freaks sounds ok but something went wrong in the production - bit harsh on the ears
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